Surprising HEEx @rest defaults
Exploring the subtleties of defaults for Phoenix global attributes
Default values can get surprisingly tricky when dealing with @rest
(aka :global
) attributes. It's best to avoid this and use
dedicated attributes. But if you're stuck in this spot, let's explore the subtle gothas in this post.
The Problem with Default Values and @rest
Imagine you're building an <.input />
component that should have a default value phx-debounce="blur"
, but also allow users to:
- Override it with a different value like
phx-debounce="100"
- Explicitly set it to
nil
to remove the attribute entirely
Here's the catch: the order and method of defining default values with @rest
matters!
And it's not what you would expect.
Let's explore this with a simple example:

Different Approaches to Default Values
Let's examine five different approaches and their behavior:
Approach | No Override | Override to "100" | Override to nil |
---|---|---|---|
Dedicated attr with default | ✅ blur | ✅ 100 | ✅ nil |
Default before @rest naive | ✅ blur | ❌ blur | ❌ blur |
Default after @rest naive | ✅ blur | ✅ 100 | ❌ blur |
Default before @rest conditional | ✅ blur | ✅ 100 | ✅ nil |
Default after @rest conditional | ✅ blur | ✅ 100 | ✅ nil |
The Implementations Behind Each Approach
Let's look at each implementation to understand why they behave differently:
Full Example
I've created a single-file Phoenix app to demonstrate all these scenarios. You can run it with elixir app.exs
and see the results for yourself:
app.exs
Application.put_env(:sample, Example.Endpoint,
http: [ip: {127, 0, 0, 1}, port: 5001],
server: true,
live_view: [signing_salt: "aaaaaaaa"],
secret_key_base: String.duplicate("a", 64)
)
Mix.install(
[
{:plug_cowboy, "~> 2.5"},
{:jason, "~> 1.0"},
{:phoenix, "~> 1.7"},
# please test your issue using the latest version of LV from GitHub!
{:phoenix_live_view,
github: "phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view", branch: "main", override: true}
]
)
# if you're trying to test a specific LV commit, it may be necessary to manually build
# the JS assets. To do this, uncomment the following lines:
# this needs mix and npm available in your path!
#
# path = Phoenix.LiveView.__info__(:compile)[:source] |> Path.dirname() |> Path.join("../")
# System.cmd("mix", ["deps.get"], cd: path, into: IO.binstream())
# System.cmd("npm", ["install"], cd: Path.join(path, "./assets"), into: IO.binstream())
# System.cmd("mix", ["assets.build"], cd: path, into: IO.binstream())
defmodule Example.ErrorView do
def render(template, _), do: Phoenix.Controller.status_message_from_template(template)
end
defmodule Example.Components do
use Phoenix.Component
attr :expected, :string
attr :"phx-debounce", :string, default: "blur"
def dedicated_attr_with_default(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce={assigns[:"phx-debounce"]}
data-expected={@expected}
/>
"""
end
attr :expected, :string
attr :rest, :global
def before_rest_naive(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce="blur"
{@rest}
data-expected={@expected}
/>
"""
end
attr :expected, :string
attr :rest, :global
def after_rest_naive(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
{@rest}
phx-debounce="blur"
data-expected={@expected}
/>
"""
end
attr :expected, :string
attr :rest, :global
def before_rest_conditional(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce={if not Map.has_key?(@rest, :"phx-debounce"), do: "blur"}
{@rest}
data-expected={@expected}
/>
"""
end
attr :expected, :string
attr :rest, :global
def after_rest_conditional(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
{@rest}
phx-debounce={if not Map.has_key?(@rest, :"phx-debounce"), do: "blur"}
data-expected={@expected}
/>
"""
end
end
defmodule Example.HomeLive do
use Phoenix.LiveView, layout: {__MODULE__, :live}
def mount(_params, _session, socket) do
{:ok, assign(socket, :count, 0)}
end
def render("live.html", assigns) do
~H"""
<script src="/assets/phoenix/phoenix.js">
</script>
<script src="/assets/phoenix_live_view/phoenix_live_view.js">
</script>
<%!-- uncomment to use enable tailwind --%>
<%!-- <script src="https://cdn.tailwindcss.com"></script> --%>
<script>
let liveSocket = new window.LiveView.LiveSocket("/live", window.Phoenix.Socket)
liveSocket.connect()
</script>
<style>
* { font-size: 16px; }
</style>
{@inner_content}
"""
end
def render(assigns) do
~H"""
<script>
document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', function() {
document.querySelectorAll('input').forEach(input => {
const value = input.getAttribute('phx-debounce')
const expected = input.getAttribute('data-expected')
console.log(value, expected)
input.outerHTML += `<br/>${value == expected && "✅" || "❌"} phx-debounce = ${value}`
})
})
</script>
<table id="table" phx-update="ignore">
<tr>
<th></th>
<th>No override</th>
<th>Override phx-debounce="100"</th>
<th>Override phx-debounce="nil"</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Dedicated attr with default</td>
<td><Example.Components.dedicated_attr_with_default expected="blur" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.dedicated_attr_with_default phx-debounce="100" expected="100" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.dedicated_attr_with_default phx-debounce={nil} expected={nil} /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Default before @rest naive</td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_naive expected="blur" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_naive phx-debounce="100" expected="100" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_naive phx-debounce={nil} expected={nil} /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Default after @rest naive</td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_naive expected="blur" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.after_rest_naive phx-debounce="100" expected="100" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.after_rest_naive phx-debounce={nil} expected={nil} /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Default before @rest conditional</td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_conditional expected="blur"/></td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_conditional phx-debounce="100" expected="100" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_conditional phx-debounce={nil} expected={nil} /></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Default after @rest conditional</td>
<td><Example.Components.before_rest_conditional expected="blur" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.after_rest_conditional phx-debounce="100" expected="100" /></td>
<td><Example.Components.after_rest_conditional phx-debounce={nil} expected={nil} /></td>
</tr>
</table>
"""
end
end
defmodule Example.Router do
use Phoenix.Router
import Phoenix.LiveView.Router
pipeline :browser do
plug(:accepts, ["html"])
end
scope "/", Example do
pipe_through(:browser)
live("/", HomeLive, :index)
end
end
defmodule Example.Endpoint do
use Phoenix.Endpoint, otp_app: :sample
socket("/live", Phoenix.LiveView.Socket)
plug Plug.Static, from: {:phoenix, "priv/static"}, at: "/assets/phoenix"
plug Plug.Static, from: {:phoenix_live_view, "priv/static"}, at: "/assets/phoenix_live_view"
plug(Example.Router)
end
{:ok, _} = Supervisor.start_link([Example.Endpoint], strategy: :one_for_one)
Process.sleep(:infinity)
Dedicated Attribute with Default
attr :"phx-debounce", :string, default: "blur"
def dedicated_attr_with_default(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce={assigns[:"phx-debounce"]}
/>
"""
end
This works perfectly because Phoenix's attribute system handles the default value for us.
Default Before @rest (Naive)
attr :rest, :global
def before_rest_naive(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce="blur"
{@rest}
/>
"""
end
You would expect a custom override in @rest
to win over the default, because {@rest}
comes last (last value wins).
But it does not! The default value always wins. We can neither override to "100"
nor can we remove by setting to nil
.
Default After @rest (Naive)
attr :rest, :global
def after_rest_naive(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
{@rest}
phx-debounce="blur"
/>
"""
end
This works when overriding with a value but fails with nil
.
Default Before @rest (Conditional)
attr :rest, :global
def before_rest_conditional(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
phx-debounce={if not Map.has_key?(@rest, :"phx-debounce"), do: "blur"}
{@rest}
/>
"""
end
This works in all cases! We only apply the default if the key isn't present in @rest
. Then @rest
is applied, potentially including explicit nil
values.
Default After @rest (Conditional)
attr :rest, :global
def after_rest_conditional(assigns) do
~H"""
<input
{@rest}
phx-debounce={if not Map.has_key?(@rest, :"phx-debounce"), do: "blur"}
/>
"""
end
This also works correctly - we first apply @rest
, then conditionally add our default only if needed.
So if using the conditional approach, order doesn't matter.
Key Learnings
From our experiments, we can derive some important principles:
-
Order matters with
@rest
:- Defaults should be placed after
{@rest}
- this is surprising!
- Defaults should be placed after
-
Apply the default conditionally:
- To allow overriding with
nil
, only apply the defaultif not Map.has_key?(@rest, :attr_name)
- If you're using this approach, order does not matter after all.
- To allow overriding with
-
Prefer dedicated attributes:
- The problem does not arise if you use a dedicated
attr :name, default: :default
- The problem does not arise if you use a dedicated